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Glad you got it sorted out.
Now that it is stable you can experiment in optimising the performance.
At the moment you are using 2133MT/sec in BIOS. You might be able to turn on XMP and get to 3600MT/sec. (Mega-transfers per second)
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Yep, swapped it out myself.
WOW - you were right. I swapped them out for another brand that we had in another PC and 100% pass with no errors. Dang!
I will be switching to G Skill
PASS Summary
System InformationReport Date 2024-10-05 07:52:31 Generated by MemTest86 V11.0 Free (64-bit)
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Result summaryEFI Specifications 2.80 System Manufacturer ASUS Product Name System Product Name Version System Version Serial Number System Serial Number BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc. Version 2602 Release Date 09/27/2024 Baseboard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Product Name ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 Version Rev 1.xx Serial Number 221213594200347 CPU Type 13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700K CPU Clock 3455 MHz [Turbo: 5385.4 MHz] # Logical Processors 24 (8 enabled for testing) L1 Cache 32 x 80K (650835 MB/s) L2 Cache 8 x 2048K (131509 MB/s) L3 Cache 30720K (50440 MB/s) Memory 16153M (16446 MB/s) RAM Configuration DDR4 2132MT/s / x2 Channel / 15-15-15-36 / 1.200V Number of RAM SPDs detected 2 SPD #0 8GB DDR4 XMP 1Rx8 PC4-28800 Vendor Part Info G Skill Intl / F4-3600C18-8GTZR JEDEC Profile 2134MT/s 15-15-15-36 1.2V XMP Profile 1 3602MT/s 18-22-22-42 1.35V SPD #1 8GB DDR4 XMP 1Rx8 PC4-28800 Vendor Part Info G Skill Intl / F4-3600C18-8GTZR JEDEC Profile 2134MT/s 15-15-15-36 1.2V XMP Profile 1 3602MT/s 18-22-22-42 1.35V Number of RAM slots 4 Number of RAM modules 2 DIMM A1 Empty slot DIMM A2 8GB DDR4 1Rx8 PC4-17000 Vendor Part Info G Skill Intl / F4-3600C18-8GTZR / 00000000 SMBIOS Profile 2133MT/s 1.2V DIMM B1 Empty slot DIMM B2 8GB DDR4 1Rx8 PC4-17000 Vendor Part Info G Skill Intl / F4-3600C18-8GTZR / 00000000 SMBIOS Profile 2133MT/s 1.2V
Test Start Time 2024-10-04 21:44:03 Elapsed Time 2:10:52 Memory Range Tested 0x0 - 47F800000 (18424MB) CPU Selection Mode Parallel (All CPUs) CPU Temperature Min/Max/Ave 48C/74C/60C RAM Temperature Min/Max/Ave TSOD0 36C/43C/40C TSOD1 36C/41C/39C Lowest memory speed 2132 MT/s (15-15-15-36) Highest memory speed 2132 MT/s (15-15-15-36) # Tests Completed 48/48 (100%) # Tests Passed 48/48 (100%) Test # Tests Passed Errors Test 0 [Address test, walking ones, 1 CPU] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 1 [Address test, own address, 1 CPU] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 2 [Address test, own address] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 3 [Moving inversions, ones & zeroes] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 4 [Moving inversions, 8-bit pattern] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 5 [Moving inversions, random pattern] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 6 [Block move, 64-byte blocks] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 7 [Moving inversions, 32-bit pattern] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 8 [Random number sequence] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 9 [Modulo 20, ones & zeros] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 10 [Bit fade test, 2 patterns, 1 CPU] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 13 [Hammer test] 4/4 (100%) 0
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It really does look like a RAM error from the test report.
It's just hard to believe you had two sets of RAM with very similar faults.
I note the new RAM and the old RAM have identical part numbers, so I assume they also look identical. Are you sure they got swapped?
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So, I changed out my CPU and failed again. Good news, my game doesn't crash anymore. It will freeze up and then proceed without crashing - still not good for those nights of doing a Raid.
In the process, I found out the person who put together my PC accidently left on some of the plastic. sigh. It has been removed and I upgraded my CPU. NExt in the list, I'm assuming, is the motherboard. Any final thoughts before I go that route?FAIL Summary
System InformationReport Date 2024-10-04 08:34:28 Generated by MemTest86 V11.0 Free (64-bit)
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Result summaryEFI Specifications 2.80 System Manufacturer ASUS Product Name System Product Name Version System Version Serial Number System Serial Number BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc. Version 2602 Release Date 09/27/2024 Baseboard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Product Name ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 Version Rev 1.xx Serial Number 221213594200347 CPU Type 13th Gen Intel Core i7-13700K CPU Clock 3455 MHz [Turbo: 5385.9 MHz] # Logical Processors 24 (8 enabled for testing) L1 Cache 32 x 80K (628529 MB/s) L2 Cache 8 x 2048K (131614 MB/s) L3 Cache 30720K (53670 MB/s) Memory 32537M (24733 MB/s) RAM Configuration DDR4 3600MT/s / x2 Channel / 18-22-22-42 / 1.200V Number of RAM SPDs detected 2 SPD #0 16GB DDR4 XMP 2Rx8 PC4-28700 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 JEDEC Profile 2134MT/s 15-15-15-36 1.2V XMP Profile 1 3596MT/s 18-22-22-42 1.35V SPD #1 16GB DDR4 XMP 2Rx8 PC4-28700 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 JEDEC Profile 2134MT/s 15-15-15-36 1.2V XMP Profile 1 3596MT/s 18-22-22-42 1.35V Number of RAM slots 4 Number of RAM modules 2 DIMM A1 Empty slot DIMM A2 16GB DDR4 2Rx8 PC4-28800 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 / 00000000 SMBIOS Profile 3600MT/s 1.2V DIMM B1 Empty slot DIMM B2 16GB DDR4 2Rx8 PC4-28800 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 / 00000000 SMBIOS Profile 3600MT/s 1.2V
Test Start Time 2024-10-03 20:35:24 Elapsed Time 2:55:56 Memory Range Tested 0x0 - 87F800000 (34808MB) CPU Selection Mode Parallel (All CPUs) CPU Temperature Min/Max/Ave 50C/82C/66C RAM Temperature Min/Max/Ave TSOD0 38C/49C/44C TSOD1 37C/47C/43C Lowest memory speed 3600 MT/s (18-22-22-42) Highest memory speed 3600 MT/s (18-22-22-42) # Tests Completed 48/48 (100%) # Tests Passed 10/48 (20%) Bits in ErrorLowest Error Address 0x5C0800430 (23560MB) Highest Error Address 0x5C2808070 (23592MB) Bits in Error Mask 0000000000008400 Bits in Error 2 Max Contiguous Errors 1 CPUs that detected memory errors { 0, 2, 14 } . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x . . . . x . . . . . . . . . . 63 0 Test # Tests Passed Errors Test 0 [Address test, walking ones, 1 CPU] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 1 [Address test, own address, 1 CPU] 2/4 (50%) 3 Test 2 [Address test, own address] 3/4 (75%) 1 Test 3 [Moving inversions, ones & zeroes] 0/4 (0%) 181 Test 4 [Moving inversions, 8-bit pattern] 0/4 (0%) 388 Test 5 [Moving inversions, random pattern] 0/4 (0%) 408 Test 6 [Block move, 64-byte blocks] 0/4 (0%) 972 Test 7 [Moving inversions, 32-bit pattern] 0/4 (0%) 820 Test 8 [Random number sequence] 0/4 (0%) 288 Test 9 [Modulo 20, ones & zeros] 0/4 (0%) 45 Test 10 [Bit fade test, 2 patterns, 1 CPU] 1/4 (25%) 7 Test 13 [Hammer test] 0/4 (0%) 193 CertificationLast 10 Errors 2024-10-03 23:31:18 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800D08, Expected: 3A344865, Actual: 3A344C65 2024-10-03 23:30:47 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806968, Expected: 5533B344, Actual: 55333344 2024-10-03 23:30:47 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806030, Expected: 4078A98E, Actual: 4078298E 2024-10-03 23:30:47 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800D08, Expected: D50DCA6C, Actual: D50DCE6C 2024-10-03 23:29:52 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806030, Expected: 618CF228, Actual: 618C7228 2024-10-03 23:29:52 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0801A68, Expected: 2263684E, Actual: 22636C4E 2024-10-03 23:29:52 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800D08, Expected: 4E2E0A76, Actual: 4E2E0E76 2024-10-03 23:29:52 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800C50, Expected: EAF4F4F0, Actual: EAF4F0F0 2024-10-03 23:29:52 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800438, Expected: A83AAAE2, Actual: A83AAEE2 2024-10-03 23:29:26 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806968, Expected: 42EA87D1, Actual: 42EA07D1
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In 20 years of PC building I've never once used those lists. They are rarely maintained and model numbers are often old and parts unavailable. So it shouldn't be a problem.I went to Asus site and my specific model of RAM is not listed on their recommended
Corsair do offer a good warranty program for their RAM. So if you do get to the point of being sure it is the RAM, they will replace it for free.
Do you have another PC to test the RAM in?
Those as common parts. ASUS is a big manufacturer. They have probably sold millions of Z790 motherboards. So if you search for gaming problems with ASUS motherboards there will be 1000s of hits, not because they are all bad, but just because they are so common. Same for Intel i5 CPU.Have you heard of anyone with my board or processor having issues with gaming?
As a home user without access to high end test equipment and deep knowledge of memory bus timing diagrams, memory controllers and RAM construction, you really have no chance of finding the true root cause. So it is mostly about trial and error with swapping components in and out, until you narrow down the problem.
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Have you heard of anyone with my board or processor having issues with gaming?
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Thank you for being so helpful.
So I'm looking at Processor or Motherboard huh
sigh.
Side Note: I went to Asus site and my specific model of RAM is not listed on their recommended. Not sure how likely that is the problem.
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Crucial, Kingston, G-Skill.
Might not be the RAM however, you'd have to unlucky to get two bad Corsair sets.
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I updated the BIOS, enabled XMP, and did another test. Failed. Do you have any brand recommendations for RAM?
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I note that you have replaced the RAM with identical RAM (same model). I also note you aren't running the RAM at it's full speed (2133 instead of 3600MT/sec). Which should in theory make it more stable.
Because it is easy I would check for BIOS updates, sometimes they get the RAM voltage or timings wrong.
If I had RAM from a different vendor available I would try that. Then maybe different RAM slots.
But after that you need to consider it might be a bad CPU or motherboard.
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Thank you for your response. I replaced the RAM and still got this:
I may end up getting something other than Corsair if this is a known issue.FAIL Summary
System InformationReport Date 2024-09-29 08:37:45 Generated by MemTest86 V11.0 Free (64-bit)
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Result summaryEFI Specifications 2.80 System Manufacturer ASUS Product Name System Product Name Version System Version Serial Number System Serial Number BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc. Version 0703 Release Date 11/01/2022 Baseboard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Product Name ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 Version Rev 1.xx Serial Number 221213594200347 CPU Type 13th Gen Intel Core i5-13600K CPU Clock 3532 MHz [Turbo: 5147.2 MHz] # Logical Processors 20 (10 enabled for testing) L1 Cache 32 x 80K (606879 MB/s) L2 Cache 8 x 2048K (127172 MB/s) L3 Cache 24576K (50677 MB/s) Memory 32536M (16531 MB/s) RAM Configuration DDR4 2132MT/s / x2 Channel / 15-15-15-36 / 1.200V Number of RAM SPDs detected 2 SPD #0 16GB DDR4 XMP 2Rx8 PC4-28700 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 JEDEC Profile 2134MT/s 15-15-15-36 1.2V XMP Profile 1 3596MT/s 18-22-22-42 1.35V SPD #1 16GB DDR4 XMP 2Rx8 PC4-28700 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 JEDEC Profile 2134MT/s 15-15-15-36 1.2V XMP Profile 1 3596MT/s 18-22-22-42 1.35V Number of RAM slots 4 Number of RAM modules 2 DIMM A1 Empty slot DIMM A2 16GB DDR4 2Rx8 PC4-17000 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 / 00000000 SMBIOS Profile 2133MT/s 1.2V DIMM B1 Empty slot DIMM B2 16GB DDR4 2Rx8 PC4-17000 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 / 00000000 SMBIOS Profile 2133MT/s 1.2V
Test Start Time 2024-09-28 22:53:25 Elapsed Time 4:12:17 Memory Range Tested 0x0 - 87F800000 (34808MB) CPU Selection Mode Parallel (All CPUs) CPU Temperature Min/Max/Ave 44C/60C/51C RAM Temperature Min/Max/Ave TSOD0 36C/44C/41C TSOD1 36C/44C/40C Lowest memory speed 2132 MT/s (15-15-15-36) Highest memory speed 2132 MT/s (15-15-15-36) # Tests Completed 48/48 (100%) # Tests Passed 9/48 (18%) Bits in ErrorLowest Error Address 0x5C0800438 (23560MB) Highest Error Address 0x5C2808838 (23592MB) Bits in Error Mask 0000000000008400 Bits in Error 2 Max Contiguous Errors 2 CPUs that detected memory errors { 0, 10 } . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x . . . . x . . . . . . . . . . 63 0 Test # Tests Passed Errors Test 0 [Address test, walking ones, 1 CPU] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 1 [Address test, own address, 1 CPU] 2/4 (50%) 3 Test 2 [Address test, own address] 2/4 (50%) 4 Test 3 [Moving inversions, ones & zeroes] 0/4 (0%) 157 Test 4 [Moving inversions, 8-bit pattern] 0/4 (0%) 560 Test 5 [Moving inversions, random pattern] 0/4 (0%) 708 Test 6 [Block move, 64-byte blocks] 0/4 (0%) 1016 Test 7 [Moving inversions, 32-bit pattern] 0/4 (0%) 1594 Test 8 [Random number sequence] 0/4 (0%) 355 Test 9 [Modulo 20, ones & zeros] 0/4 (0%) 72 Test 10 [Bit fade test, 2 patterns, 1 CPU] 1/4 (25%) 8 Test 13 [Hammer test] 0/4 (0%) 114 CertificationLast 10 Errors 2024-09-29 03:05:39 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806968, Expected: 32C668E1, Actual: 32C6E8E1 2024-09-29 03:05:39 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806030, Expected: B30296D3, Actual: B30216D3 2024-09-29 03:05:39 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800C50, Expected: 4D2EEB7B, Actual: 4D2EEF7B 2024-09-29 03:05:39 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800478, Expected: 71F337B5, Actual: 71F333B5 2024-09-29 03:05:39 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800440, Expected: 11E30687, Actual: 11E30287 2024-09-29 03:05:08 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806030, Expected: 9372BECB, Actual: 93723ECB 2024-09-29 03:05:08 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0801A68, Expected: B7C48059, Actual: B7C48459 2024-09-29 03:04:41 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806030, Expected: F3659FC3, Actual: F3651FC3 2024-09-29 03:04:41 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800C50, Expected: C7313A6B, Actual: C7313E6B 2024-09-29 03:03:45 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0807E38, Expected: C03AFA45, Actual: C03A7A45
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It's bad.How Bad is This
Try with one the stick at a time. Or just replace them both.
See also this page
https://www.memtest86.com/troubleshooting.htm
Note: This is yet again a problem with Corsair RAM.
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How Bad is This and What do I do next?
This is bad, right? What do I need to fix or do I just need new memory sticks?
FAIL Summary
System InformationReport Date 2024-09-28 08:14:22 Generated by MemTest86 V11.0 Free (64-bit)
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Result summaryEFI Specifications 2.80 System Manufacturer ASUS Product Name System Product Name Version System Version Serial Number System Serial Number BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc. Version 0703 Release Date 11/01/2022 Baseboard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Product Name ROG STRIX Z790-A GAMING WIFI D4 Version Rev 1.xx Serial Number 221213594200347 CPU Type 13th Gen Intel Core i5-13600K CPU Clock 3532 MHz [Turbo: 5147.1 MHz] # Logical Processors 20 (10 enabled for testing) L1 Cache 32 x 80K (620515 MB/s) L2 Cache 8 x 2048K (127160 MB/s) L3 Cache 24576K (50814 MB/s) Memory 32536M (16514 MB/s) RAM Configuration DDR4 2132MT/s / x2 Channel / 15-15-15-36 / 1.200V Number of RAM SPDs detected 2 SPD #0 16GB DDR4 XMP 2Rx8 PC4-28700 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 JEDEC Profile 2134MT/s 15-15-15-36 1.2V XMP Profile 1 3596MT/s 18-22-22-42 1.35V SPD #1 16GB DDR4 XMP 2Rx8 PC4-28700 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 JEDEC Profile 2134MT/s 15-15-15-36 1.2V XMP Profile 1 3596MT/s 18-22-22-42 1.35V Number of RAM slots 4 Number of RAM modules 2 DIMM A1 Empty slot DIMM A2 16GB DDR4 2Rx8 PC4-17000 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 / 00000000 SMBIOS Profile 2133MT/s 1.2V DIMM B1 Empty slot DIMM B2 16GB DDR4 2Rx8 PC4-17000 Vendor Part Info Corsair / CMH32GX4M2D3600C18 / 00000000 SMBIOS Profile 2133MT/s 1.2V
Test Start Time 2024-09-27 23:01:43 Elapsed Time 4:10:51 Memory Range Tested 0x0 - 87F800000 (34808MB) CPU Selection Mode Parallel (All CPUs) CPU Temperature Min/Max/Ave 44C/61C/51C RAM Temperature Min/Max/Ave TSOD0 37C/44C/41C TSOD1 35C/42C/39C Lowest memory speed 2132 MT/s (15-15-15-36) Highest memory speed 2132 MT/s (15-15-15-36) # Tests Completed 48/48 (100%) # Tests Passed 11/48 (22%) Bits in ErrorLowest Error Address 0x5C0800630 (23560MB) Highest Error Address 0x5C2808558 (23592MB) Bits in Error Mask 0000000000008100 Bits in Error 2 Max Contiguous Errors 1 CPUs that detected memory errors { 0, 10 } . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x . . . . . . x . . . . . . . . 63 0 Test # Tests Passed Errors Test 0 [Address test, walking ones, 1 CPU] 4/4 (100%) 0 Test 1 [Address test, own address, 1 CPU] 3/4 (75%) 1 Test 2 [Address test, own address] 3/4 (75%) 2 Test 3 [Moving inversions, ones & zeroes] 0/4 (0%) 162 Test 4 [Moving inversions, 8-bit pattern] 0/4 (0%) 605 Test 5 [Moving inversions, random pattern] 0/4 (0%) 897 Test 6 [Block move, 64-byte blocks] 0/4 (0%) 1146 Test 7 [Moving inversions, 32-bit pattern] 0/4 (0%) 2421 Test 8 [Random number sequence] 0/4 (0%) 407 Test 9 [Modulo 20, ones & zeros] 0/4 (0%) 96 Test 10 [Bit fade test, 2 patterns, 1 CPU] 1/4 (25%) 14 Test 13 [Hammer test] 0/4 (0%) 147 CertificationLast 10 Errors 2024-09-28 03:12:30 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806230, Expected: E99E9FFB, Actual: E99E1FFB 2024-09-28 03:12:30 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800E50, Expected: 4705F5A3, Actual: 4705F4A3 2024-09-28 03:11:59 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806230, Expected: 56A3EEF3, Actual: 56A36EF3 2024-09-28 03:11:59 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800638, Expected: 7318C205, Actual: 7318C305 2024-09-28 03:11:32 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0806B68, Expected: 24C0F439, Actual: 24C07439 2024-09-28 03:11:05 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800638, Expected: 508CD275, Actual: 508CD375 2024-09-28 03:10:37 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0807470, Expected: EA24AEAB, Actual: EA242EAB 2024-09-28 03:10:37 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0805F38, Expected: 7D41D56D, Actual: 7D41556D 2024-09-28 03:10:37 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800E50, Expected: D3E75383, Actual: D3E75283 2024-09-28 03:10:37 - [Data Error] Test: 13, CPU: 0, Address: 5C0800638, Expected: E4F3BC2D, Actual: E4F3BD2D
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