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    Hello Everyone,

    so i've just switched to a new Mainboard and had some System instabilitys since then. To Check memory I ran MemTest86 and indeed got some (6) errors in 4 passes.
    Since all were on the same address i guessed i had a dead Stick of RAM, so i tested both sticks seperately. Both sticks passed 5 tests each without any error.
    So I guessed it was a CPU/MB error and tested all Slots seperately (only one occupied at a time). Again all slots passed 5 passes without any errors. After that i tested both Sticks on the same Channel (Single Channel mode) and again got 0 errors on 5 passes. Since windows was working also in this setting I reset the BIOS again (even reflashed it) and ran a new test in DualChannel mode after making sure the Memory specs are correct (2400MHz, correct timings, 1.2V). The test is still running but until now i have 3 errors within the first 2 passes, with the first one finishing without any errors, one error occuring in test 5-pass 2 and the others in hammers test pass 2. I will upload the log once the test finishes.
    By now I'm very confused by the results, since I both sticks seem to be alright (I guess?) and all my channels seem to be fine to. Yet i keep getting errors in dual channel mode.
    What do you guys make out of all that?
    Am I looking on a (slightly?) bad stick of RAM or is it more a CPU/MOBO sided error?

    Also i found that my Memory isn't explicitly supported by the Motherboard, accrding to the support list. Might that be a cause for those errors?

    My Specs are:
    Intel i5-8400
    Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 7
    2x8Gb RAM 2400MHz, 16-16-16-39, 1.2V (Team Group)
    Asus Strix RTX 2070 Advanced

  • #2
    Am I looking on a (slightly?) bad stick of RAM
    Yes this is what I would suspect. It can happen that RAM can pass in single channel mode but fail in dual channel mode. The access pattern is different.

    PC Memory is standardised. So in theory at least it doesn't matter which RAM you use with which motherboard as long as the basic specs are meet (DDR3, DDR4, etc..). In the real world there are cases of some motherboards and RAM being marginal when used in combination.

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    • #3
      Thanks for your answer.
      Since the errors were all located in a very narrow field of addresses (within 32MB) and all had the same Error mask I came to the same conclusion.
      What I still think is odd is the fact, that all the errors apparently come from the same core (core 4) in all my tests. Even stranger is that using only one core the test passes if I use any core but core 4.
      However it seems unlikely that a single core, that doesn't even communicate with the ram directly but through a memory controller, develops a habit of getting one (always the same) faulty bit within a that small range of addresses.
      Or am I getting this wrong?

      I've added a log of a test for reference.

      For now i've ordered new RAM and hope this will solve this problem.
      Summary

      Report Date 2019-04-01 22:13:45
      Generated by MemTest86 V8.1 Free (64-bit)
      Result FAIL
      System Information

      EFI Specifications 2.60
      System
      Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
      Product Name Z370 AORUS Gaming 7-OP
      Version Default string
      Serial Number Default string
      BIOS
      Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
      Version F13
      Release Date 03/22/2019
      Baseboard
      Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
      Product Name Z370 AORUS Gaming 7-OP
      Version Default string
      Serial Number Default string
      CPU Type Intel Core i5-8400 @ 2.80GHz
      CPU Clock 2837 MHz [Turbo: 3910.6 MHz]
      # Logical Processors 6
      L1 Cache 4 x 64K (243775 MB/s)
      L2 Cache 4 x 256K (92463 MB/s)
      L3 Cache 9216K (26755 MB/s)
      Memory 16339M (17755 MB/s)
      DIMM Slot #0 8GB DDR4 PC4-19200
      Team Group Inc. / TEAMGROUP-UD4-2400 / 01047CE8
      16-16-16-39 / 2400 MHz / 1.2V
      DIMM Slot #1 8GB DDR4 PC4-19200
      Team Group Inc. / TEAMGROUP-UD4-2400 / 0104C112
      16-16-16-39 / 2400 MHz / 1.2V
      Result summary

      Test Start Time 2019-04-01 22:06:34
      Elapsed Time 0:07:07
      Memory Range Tested 0x0 - 43F000000 (17392MB)
      CPU Selection Mode Parallel (All CPUs)
      ECC Polling Enabled
      # Tests Passed 5/7 (71%)
      Lowest Error Address 0x3F4E091C8 (16206MB)
      Highest Error Address 0x3F6E093C8 (16238MB)
      Bits in Error Mask 0000000000000100
      Bits in Error 1
      Max Contiguous Errors 1
      Test # Tests Passed Errors
      Test 0 [Address test, walking ones, 1 CPU] 1/1 (100%) 0
      Test 1 [Address test, own address, 1 CPU] 1/1 (100%) 0
      Test 2 [Address test, own address] 1/1 (100%) 0
      Test 3 [Moving inversions, ones & zeroes] 1/1 (100%) 0
      Test 4 [Moving inversions, 8-bit pattern] 1/1 (100%) 0
      Test 5 [Moving inversions, random pattern] 0/1 (0%) 1
      Test 6 [Block move, 64-byte blocks] 0/1 (0%) 4
      Test 7 [Moving inversions, 32-bit pattern] 0/0 (0%) 0
      Test 8 [Random number sequence] 0/0 (0%) 0
      Test 9 [Modulo 20, ones & zeros] 0/0 (0%) 0
      Test 10 [Bit fade test, 2 patterns, 1 CPU] 0/0 (0%) 0
      Test 13 [Hammer test] 0/0 (0%) 0
      Last 10 Errors
      2019-04-01 22:10:31 - [Data Error] Test: 6, CPU: 4, Address: 3F6E093C8, Expected: 00000400, Actual: 00000500
      2019-04-01 22:10:31 - [Data Error] Test: 6, CPU: 4, Address: 3F6E09388, Expected: 00000200, Actual: 00000300
      2019-04-01 22:10:31 - [Data Error] Test: 6, CPU: 4, Address: 3F4E093E8, Expected: 00000400, Actual: 00000500
      2019-04-01 22:10:31 - [Data Error] Test: 6, CPU: 4, Address: 3F4E093A8, Expected: 00000200, Actual: 00000300
      2019-04-01 22:09:38 - [Data Error] Test: 5, CPU: 4, Address: 3F4E091C8, Expected: 9C29A885, Actual: 9C29A985
      Certification

      This document certifies that the Tests described above have been carried out by a suitably qualified technician on the System described above.
      Signed

      ___________________________

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      • #4
        Real test is to replace the RAM and see if the problem goes away.

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        • #5
          Thanks for your great help.
          Swapped to new RAM and all is working again, no Errors anywhere.

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