bios - reporting of RAM speeds

[hawks]

I put my ram timing in the bios per manufaturing spects they are 9-11-11-31 it shows up as 8-10-10-29 I cant seem to get to the bottom of this can i get some help

8.0 (1010) WIN64
3680
HWAKEYES-PC
Windows 7 Service Pack 1 build 7601 (64-bit)
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
Crosshair V Formula
Rev 1.xx
American Megatrends Inc.
ALASKA - 1072009
2012/10/17
AuthenticAMD
AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core
Family 15, Model 2, Stepping 0
1
4
2
4014.9 MHz [Turbo: 4115.5 MHz]
20.0X
200.7 MHz
(N/A)
8 x 16 KB
8 x 64 KB
8 x 2 MB
8 MB
32728MB
29910MB
8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-16000
	G Skill Intl F3-2133C9-8GXH
	XMP: 1.60V, Clk: 1000.0MHz, Timings 8-10-10-29
8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-16000
	G Skill Intl F3-2133C9-8GXH
	XMP: 1.60V, Clk: 1000.0MHz, Timings 8-10-10-29
8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-16000
	G Skill Intl F3-2133C9-8GXH
	XMP: 1.60V, Clk: 1000.0MHz, Timings 8-10-10-29
8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-16000
	G Skill Intl F3-2133C9-8GXH
	XMP: 1.60V, Clk: 1000.0MHz, Timings 8-10-10-29
C:\pagefile.sys (32728MB)
ATA OCZ-REVODRIVE3 X SCSI Disk Device
447GB
C:
Unknown
Unknown
Unknown
Generic- Compact Flash USB Device
USB
Unknown
Unknown
Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device
USB
Unknown
Unknown
Generic- SD/MMC USB Device
USB
Unknown
Unknown
Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Device
USB
Unknown
Unknown
Optiarc BD RW BD-5300S SATA CdRom Device
C: [Local drive]
NTFS
4KB
447.1GB (306.7GB)
D: [Optical drive]
E: [Removable]
F: [Removable]
G: [Removable]
H: [Removable]
AMD Radeon HD 6950
AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6719)
Internal DAC(400MHz)
2048MB
113-C2160100-106
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
9.2.0.0
9-27-2012
1920x1080x32 60Hz (Primary monitor)
CPU 0
26.00C
GPU 0 (AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series)
49.50C

[hawks]

Type this in to the GSKILL TECH FORUM Slow F3-2133C9Q-32GXH
It will show a pic of my true ram speeds from CPU-Z

[David (PassMark)]

Pretty sure this is because we report on the (best) specs of the RAM sticks and not the settings you have currently selected.

[hawks]

That sounds like a big line of BS if you dont know just say so and dont be such a Dingo when I ask you something. Thought you are here to help not critasize people on some of my posts If I were a expert I wouldnt be on this form asking questions if thats the case just refund my money back and i will be happy to use another benchmark softwere

[David (PassMark)]

The reason I wasn't sure is that I went to the GSkill web site and tried to look up the specs for your F3-2133C9-8GXH RAM, but couldn't find the part number listed on their site.

You claimed the part number was, F3-2133C9Q-32GXH but the RAM itself claims it is
F3-2133C9-8GXH. So there is some confusion there.

Even for the F3-2133C9Q-32GXH part, the GSkill web site doesn't list the XMP specs of the RAM.

So without being sure what the actual specifications are for the RAM you have, it is hard to be 100% sure we are reporting the correct max speed.

It you don't like my answers you are more than welcome to go elsewhere.

[hawks]

Go to newegg and paste
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-2133C9Q-32GXH

[hawks]

Rammon

I loaded rammon and this is what it reported does everything look as it should It cutt off some info when i pasted it so i put it on the next post





RAMMon v1.0 Build: 1007 built with SysInfo v1.0 Build: 1028
PassMark (R) Software
www.passmark.com
Memmory summary for HWAKEYES-PC:
Number of Memory Devices: 4 Total Physical Memory: 32728 MB (32768 MB)
Total Available Physical Memory: 29939 MB
Memory Load: 8%
Item | Slot #1 | Slot #2 | Slot #3 | Slot #4 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|-
Ram Type | DDR3 | DDR3 | DDR3 | DDR3 |
Standard Name | DDR3-1333 | DDR3-1333 | DDR3-1333 | DDR3-1333 |
Module Name | PC3-10600 | PC3-10600 | PC3-10600 | PC3-10600 |
Memory Capacity (MB) | 8192 | 8192 | 8192 | 8192 |
Bus Clockspeed (Mhz) | 666.67 | 666.67 | 666.67 | 666.67 |
Jedec Manufacture Name | G Skill Intl | G Skill Intl | G Skill Intl | G Skill Intl |
Search Amazon.com | Search! | Search! | Search! | Search! |
SPD Revision | 1.1 | 1.1 | 1.1 | 1.1 |
Registered | No | No | No | No |
ECC | No | No | No | No |
DIMM Slot # | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
Manufactured | Year 0 | Year 0 | Year 0 | Year 0 |
Module Part # | F3-2133C9-8GXH | F3-2133C9-8GXH | F3-2133C9-8GXH | F3-2133C9-8GXH |
Module Revision | 0x0 | 0x0 | 0x0 | 0x0 |
Module Serial # | 0x0 | 0x0 | 0x0 | 0x0 |
Module Manufacturing Location | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
# of Row Addressing Bits | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 |
# of Column Addressing Bits | 10 | 10 | 10 | 10 |
# of Banks | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 |
# of Ranks | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
Device Width in Bits | 8 | 8 | 8 | 8 |
Bus Width in Bits | 64 | 64 | 64 | 64 |
Module Voltage | 1.5V | 1.5V | 1.5V | 1.5V |
CAS Latencies Supported | 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 5 6 7 8 9 10 |
Timings @ Max Frequency | 9-9-9-24 | 9-9-9-24 | 9-9-9-24 | 9-9-9-24 |
Minimum Clock Cycle Time, tCK (ns) | 1.500 | 1.500 | 1.500 | 1.500 |
Minimum CAS Latency Time, tAA (ns) | 13.125 | 13.125 | 13.125 | 13.125 |
Minimum RAS to CAS Delay, tRCD (ns) | 13.125 | 13.125 | 13.125 | 13.125 |
Minimum Row Precharge Time, tRP (ns) | 13.125 | 13.125 | 13.125 | 13.125 |
Minimum Active to Precharge Time, tRAS (ns) | 36.000 | 36.000 | 36.000 | 36.000 |
Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay, tRRD (ns) | 6.000 | 6.000 | 6.000 | 6.000 |
Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Time, tRC (ns) | 49.125 | 49.125 | 49.125 | 49.125 |
Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Command Period, tRFC (ns) | 260.000 | 260.000 | 260.000 | 260.000 |
| | | | |
DDR3 Specific SPD Attributes | | | | |
Write Recovery Time, tWR (ns) | 15.000 | 15.000 | 15.000 | 15.000 |
Internal Write to Read Command Delay, tWTR (ns) | 7.500 | 7.500 | 7.500 | 7.500 |
Internal Read to Precharge Command Delay, tRTP (ns) | 7.500 | 7.500 | 7.500 | 7.500 |
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay, tFAW (ns) | 30.000 | 30.000 | 30.000 | 30.000 |
RZQ / 6 Supported | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
RZQ / 7 Supported | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
DLL-Off Mode Supported | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
Maximum Operating Temperature (C) | 95 | 95 | 95 | 95 |
Refresh Rate at Extended Operating Temperature Range | 1X | 1X | 1X | 1X |
Auto-self Refresh Supported | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
On-die Thermal Sensor Readout Supported | No | No | No | No |
Partial Array Self Refresh Supported | No | No | No | No |
Thermal Sensor Present | No | No | No | No |
Non-standard SDRAM Type | Standard Monolithic | Standard Monolithic | Standard Monolithic | Standard Monolithic |
Module Type | UDIMM | UDIMM | UDIMM | UDIMM |
Module Height (mm) | 30 | 30 | 30 | 30 |
Module Thickness (front), (mm) | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
Module Thickness (back), (mm) | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
Module Width (mm) | 133.5 | 133.5 | 133.5 | 133.5 |
Reference Raw Card Used | Raw Card B Rev. 1 | Raw Card B Rev. 1 | Raw Card B Rev. 1 | Raw Card B Rev. 1 |
DRAM Manufacture ID | 1229 | 1229 | 1229 | 1229 |
# of DRAM Rows | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
# of Registers | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Register Manufacturer | | | | |
Register Type | | | | |
Register Revision | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| | | | |

[hawks]

I sent a email to passmark with this file on it so you can see it better

[David (PassMark)]

Got the file.

As noted above, the model number programmed into the RAM sticks is F3-2133C9-8GXH.
But GSkill doesn't list any specs for this part number. So it is hard to checks that the numbers we are reporting are in line with the GSkill specs.

But let's imagine that someone has stuffed up, and these are really F3-2133C9Q-32GXH parts, despite the information to the contrary.

G.Skill lists these part as,
1.6V
9-11-11-31 2N
DDR3-2133 MHz (PC3-17000)

And this matches up with the second of the XMP profiles reported by RAMMon.
Module voltage | 1.60V
Clock speed (Mhz) | 1066.67
Supported timing at highest clock speed | 9-11-11-31
(Note that 1066.67Mhz = DDR3-2133 = PC3-17000)

In PerformanceTest we seem to be reporting the first of the XMP profiles.
DDR3 PC3-16000
G Skill Intl F3-2133C9-8GXH
XMP: 1.60V, Clk: 1000.0MHz, Timings 8-10-10-29


So the clock speed for the 2nd XMP profile is 6.6% higher, but the timings are 11% faster on the 1st XMP profile. In real life it isn't clear which one would be faster (except to say they are so close it doesn't matter). But we should probably be reporting the 2nd profile in PT nonetheless.

[hawks]

ok
Paste this F3-2133C9Q-32GXH
in the gskill home page its there I just checked it

[David (PassMark)]

I know the Q-32GXH part is listed.... I quoted the specs from the G.Skill site in my post above.
But your RAM is claiming it isn't this part number.

[RBJWOOD]

http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=503 Maybe this will help?

[David (PassMark)]

Not sure why you keep pointing out the same thing.
The Q-32GXH part is listed on their site. Always has been.
But you aren't using this part.
You are using the F3-2133C9-8GXH part.
It might well have the same spec's but different packaging or something, but who really knows.

[hawks]

It was somebody else not me