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    Hi,

    I was doing the benchmark for my new pc and my results for cpu and 2d are very bad compared to others. That does not seem right.

    My pc is:

    i7 7700
    Gtx 1070
    Mobo H270
    16Gb ram (2x 8gb)
    ssd 480gb v400
    Liquid cooler on CPU
    Display 1920 x 1080p 60hz
    Windows 10 x64 creators update

    When I run the test my temps are good, cpu reaches top 67 Celsius, my GTX reaches 61 Celsius and all my cores and threads are 100% during the test(4 cores, 8 threads).

    I did other benchmarks and got expected results. Why in Passmark is so bad ?

    Images attached.



  • #2
    I assume you are overclocking the machine (but failed to mention it).

    So I assume the CPU is throttling during this test.

    Maybe this problem.
    http://www.passmark.com/forum/perfor...int-math-score

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    • #3
      My mobo does not allow OC. CPU has turbo boost from 3.6 to 4.2. I do have enought power for it and cooling capacity. It should not do CPU throttling. During the cpu test it stays on all cores at 4000ghz and does not drop at all.

      Windows power settings are set to high performance.

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      • #4
        My scores in 3DMark

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        • #5
          67C seems a bit hot, considering you aren't overclocked, have water cooling and the CPU tests are fairly short running.
          Do you have the baseline number, so that we can look at all the results.

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          • #6
            I read that 7th generation intel cpu can operate well till 72 C, they are usually hotter than the other generations. My ambient temperature is usually 27 C, 5 C above stardat ambiente temperature.

            Whem I run passmark on cpu and 2D teste, the cpu temp is 60 C actually, all fore cores running around 4000ghz, voltage 1.25v+-

            I took some samples inside passmark as baselines from other pcs with same rig : i7 7700, 1070, 16gb ram.

            For CPU test:

            CPU mark: 7725, less then everyone else (all of them), It should be near 11000;

            Interger Math : 15232, should be around 18000 or more;
            Floating Point Math: 2602, should be around 7700 or more;
            Prime Numbers: 21, should be around 30 or more;
            SSE: 492, this one is actually fine
            Compression: 15343 also fine
            Encryption: 2572 also fine
            Physics: 435, should be around 700
            Sorting: 8963 fine
            Single Threaded: 1901, should be around 2400

            For 2D test:

            2D mark: 754, should be around 1000

            Simple Vectors: 23 should be around 35
            Complex Vectors: 122, should be around 140
            Font and Text: 238, should be around 330
            Windows Interface: 71, should be around 130
            Image Filters: 1186 this one is fine
            Image Rendering: 1154 fine
            Direct 2D: 68 fine

            3D mark is very good 10898
            Memory mark is normal at 2521
            Disk mark is good at 4435


            I also read about some sort of AVX instructions that affect the new generation intel in float points and prime math. For exemple, to use Prime95 i should use version 26 and not 28, because 28 has this AVX thing.


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            • #7
              It still looks like the issue I linked to above. CPU appears to be throttled for floating point operations. Here is the link again.
              http://www.passmark.com/forum/perfor...int-math-score
              That problem was for the 6600K CPU. Coincidence that you have a 7700K? I don't know.

              Is this an isolated problem?
              At the moment we have 346 benchmark results for the i7-7700 CPU, and 5 of these have low floating point results.

              Does the problem effect the i7-7700K as well?
              At the moment we have 2468 benchmark results for the i7-7700K CPU, and 27 of these have low floating point results.

              So 1.0% - 1.5% of these CPUs have a problem. Around 2% of the 6600K had a problem.

              Speculation was that it was a damaged PCU unit in the CPU, but another user said a clean install of Windows fixed it (which implies a 3rd party software issue or bad device drivers).






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              • #8
                Actually my cpu is i7 7700, not the K one.

                I did a check again, runt t he cpu test, checked cpu and it is running all cores about 4000ghz during all the tests, there is minor variaton, the lower being 3995ghz and the top 4100ghz. Voltage goes from 1.04 to 1.25 and all cores and threads are used.

                I don´t see how this could be throttled.

                How to I check the PCU ?

                can be drivers maybe, but what could it be ? I am using windows 10 x64 creators, maybe something is this update has a problem ?

                because for 3d mark I got:

                Fire Strike 1.1: 14778, that is 88t% better than all other results in their database (so the result is inside the interval from 14000 to 16000, where a lot of the i7 7700 gtx 1070 sambles are).

                pcmark 8 creative: 5441, 95% better than all results in the database

                pcmark 8 home: 4547, 96% better than all results in database

                Geekbench cpu: 4944 single-core and 15135 for multi-core (baseline for i7 7700 are 4066 and 16059)

                CPU-z : single 2006 and multi 8745 (baseline for cpu are 2030, 8917)

                Cinebench: 853 (baseline 874)

                I set the boost on bios to disable, so all cores run at 3.6ghz. Test again, lower results. So, it is not the cpu frequency...
                Last edited by LocalGamer; Apr-19-2017, 05:21 PM.

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                • #9
                  Maybe this other bechmark results can help to helpe me find the problem:

                  http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/3462705

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                  • #10
                    I have looked at those UserBenchmark pages in the past and have problems making any sense out of them. I mean how to do you have 110% performance? And how do you have a "very good bench" but at the same time you are "Performing way below expectations".

                    Anyway the page says for your CPU, Base clock 3.6 GHz, turbo 3.55 GHz, which doesn't seem right either. I don't know if that is a problem with your CPU or with their benchmark.

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                    • #11
                      Your are right, their results are very odd.

                      Is there anything I can do to provide information that can help to understand and maybe solve the problem?

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                      • #12
                        I run the Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool, got the following output:

                        ---------------------------
                        --- IPDT64 - Revision: 4.0.0.29
                        --- IPDT64 - Start Time: 22/04/2017 12:58:14

                        CPU1
                        Intel(R) spbc Module Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.8.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:14 2017
                        Test Result - PASS
                        ..!!..Processor under test is verified as 'PRODUCTION'..!!..

                        Processor Manufacturer: GenuineIntel
                        Processor Brand String: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz

                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:14 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 0
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        Genuine Intel CPU Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.12.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:14 2017
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected: GenuineIntel
                        Detected: GenuineIntel
                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:14 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 0
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        CPU Brand String Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.14.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:14 2017
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected: Intel(R) Core(TM) CPU @
                        Detected: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz
                        Intel(R) Core(TM) processor detected..!!..
                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:14 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 0
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        Floating Point Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.11.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:14 2017
                        AVX is supported in your OS
                        Max AVX supported = AVX2
                        FMA3 supported
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Million Floating Points per Second, MFLOPS: 487.76
                        Error: 0
                        --- Floating Point Test Passed!!!---
                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:16 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 2
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        Prime Number Generation Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.13.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:16 2017
                        AVX is supported in your OS
                        Max AVX supported = AVX2
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Operation Per Second: 98348
                        Error: 0
                        --- Prime Number Generation Test Passed!!!---
                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:18 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 2
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        Cache Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.11.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:18 2017
                        Test Result - PASS

                        --- Reading Cache Size ---

                        - Detected L1 Data Cache Size --> 32
                        - Detected L1 Inst Cache Size --> 32

                        - Detected L2 Cache Size --> 256
                        - Detected L3 Cache Size --> 8192

                        Cache Size Test Passed!!!

                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:18 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 0
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        MMXSSE Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.11.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:18 2017
                        Test Result - PASS

                        --- Determining MMX - SSE capabilities ---
                        --- CPU FEATURES DETECTION FOR ---
                        --- MMX SSE ---
                        MMX - MMX Supported --> Yes
                        SSE - SSE Supported --> Yes
                        SSE2 - SSE2 Supported --> Yes
                        SSE3 - SSE3 Supported --> Yes
                        SSSE3 - SSSE3 Supported --> Yes
                        SSE4.1 - SSE4.1 Supported --> Yes
                        SSE4.2 - SSE4.2 Supported --> Yes
                        --- MMX SSE - capabilities check complete ---
                        MMX Test Result --- PASS
                        SSE Test Result --- PASS
                        SSE2 Test Result --- PASS
                        SSE3 Test Result --- PASS
                        SSSE3 Test Result --- PASS
                        SSE4.1 Test Result --- PASS
                        SSE4.2 Test Result --- PASS

                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:18 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 0
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        FMA3 Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.10.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:18 2017
                        Test Result - PASS

                        --- CPU Features Detection ---
                        FMA3 - Supported --> Yes
                        FMA3 Test Result --- PASS

                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:24 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 6
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        AVX Test
                        Module Version: 2.0.8.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:24 2017
                        Test Result - PASS

                        --- CPU Features Detection ---
                        AVX - Supported --> Yes
                        AVX2 - Supported --> Yes
                        AVX512 - Supported --> No
                        AVX OS Support - Supported --> Yes
                        AES - Supported --> Yes
                        PCLMULQDQ - Supported --> Yes
                        AVX2 Test Result --- PASS

                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:30 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 6
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        IMC Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.8.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:30 2017
                        Test Result - PASS
                        --- Reading Memory Size ---
                        Detected Memory Size is --> 16.00GB
                        --- Subtest - Memory Size Test Passed!!! ---
                        --- Integrated Memory Controller Stress Test ---
                        Memory to be allocated = 1048576 byte
                        Memory Allocated.
                        Test 1 Ones and Zeros Moving Inversions write operations - Passed
                        Test 1 Ones and Zeros Moving Inversions verification operations - Passed
                        Test 2 32Bits Sliding Ones write operations - Passed
                        Test 2 32Bits Sliding Ones verification operations - Passed
                        Test 3 32Bits Sliding Zero write operations - Passed
                        Test 3 32Bits Sliding Zero verification operations - Passed
                        Memory Deallocated.
                        --- Subtest - Memory Stress Test Passed!!! ---
                        Integrated Memory Controller Stress Test Passed!!!
                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:30 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 0
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        PCH Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.10.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:30 2017
                        Test Result - Config Mismatch
                        Platform Controller Hub Test not supported current chipset.
                        Skipping Platform Controller Hub Test.
                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:30 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 0
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        IGD Module Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.12.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:30 2017
                        Test Result: Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Device Not Detected or Not Configured, Test Skipped
                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:30 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 0
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        GFX Module Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.12.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:58:30 2017
                        GFX Module Test: PASS
                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 12:59:00 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 30
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        CPU Load
                        Module Version: 1.0.12.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 12:59:00 2017
                        CPU Load: PASS
                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 13:03:20 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 260
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        CPU1
                        CPU Frequency Test
                        Module Version: 1.0.16.64b.W
                        Start Time: Sat Apr 22 13:03:20 2017
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Processor Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz
                        Expected CPU Frequency: 3.60
                        Detected CPU Frequency: 3.6
                        Expected Base Clock: 100
                        Detected Base Clock: 100
                        QPI link rate Test - Not supported.
                        Skipping QPI link rate Test.
                        End Time: Sat Apr 22 13:03:22 2017
                        Total Time: seconds: 2
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        --- IPDT64 - Temperature Monitor Results
                        Temperature Monitor will begin when CPULoad Test starts
                        --- Temperature Test ---
                        ...
                        Version 1.0.13.64b.W
                        ...

                        66 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 66 degrees below max

                        --- Temperature Test ---
                        ...
                        Version 1.0.13.64b.W
                        ...


                        Entering run forever
                        62 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 62 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        59 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 59 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        69 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 69 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        69 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 69 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        69 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 69 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        70 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 70 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        69 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 69 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        68 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 68 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        69 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 69 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED
                        69 degrees C below maximum
                        Test Result - PASS
                        Expected Greater than 1 degrees below max
                        Received 69 degrees below max
                        Test PASSED

                        Temperature Monitor Stopped

                        --------------------------------------------------------------------

                        System Information
                        ------------------
                        Processor Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz
                        Processor Information: Intel64 Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 9
                        Number of Physical Cores: 4
                        Number of Logical Cores: 8
                        Installed System Memory: 16 GB
                        Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64 bits
                        Graphics Information: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
                        System Product: H270-GAMING 3
                        System BIOS: F4
                        System Serial Number: Default string
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------

                        --- IPDT64 - End Time: 22/04/2017 13:03:22
                        --- IPDT64 - Result: Pass
                        --------------------------------------------------------------------

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                        • #13
                          I modified Intel Speed Shift Technology to enabled in the BIOS and looking around I found out some people were having problems with Gigabyte apps (since my MOBO is gigabyte and my GTX is Gigabyte). I unistall several of the apps, including ine called EasyTuningService. Then had another go on Passmark and...better results:

                          http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V9...id=81825307273

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                          • #14
                            Floating point result is now 3x higher. So a good result. Would have been interesting to make one configuration change at a time to see which one had the impact.

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                            • #15
                              I am pretty sure the problem wasw gigabyte software. I believe it is not updated to work with windows creator yet. Other people with gigabyte Mobo had similar problemas. I dont think the Intel Speed Shift Technology to enabled in the BIOS had such impact on the performance. Gigabyte software runs in the background of the OS, and their settings were probabily holding the pc performance back.

                              I had one game with 15 fps, after I unistall the apps, now runs all in ultra 200 steady fps.

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